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The Life and Death of Anna Nicole Smith

Stern Motion To Quash Bloggers Subpoenas

February 5th, 2008 by QV

Stern’s Motion to Quash Blogger Subpoenas

Howard K Stern has filed a motion to quash the subpoenas that were served on the husband and wife blogging team of Rose Speaks. This was done in the lawsuit, Virgie Arthur vs Howard K. Stern and CBS Studios and KPRC Houston

Stern bases his motion on Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d) stating that discovery has not yet started in this matter.

Stern_motion_quash_bloggers_subpeona_KT.pdf

Stern_motion_quash_bloggers_subpeona_RT.pdf

*Note, since some people want to nit pick, these are not motion to quash, they are “objections”.  

I would like to address everyone that comments on this site. In the past week, I have had to ban two people for comments containing character assassination, and this morning there was a threat against another poster. This site welcomes opinions from both sides, but from now on, I am going to have to delete comments and ban people that will not follow the rules.

When in discussion with an opposing view point, please just discuss your opinion and do not call each other names or swear at them or accuse them of anything. I have been guilty of the same on other sites as well but I am not going to argue with people anymore. I’ll just state my case and move on. I know it is hard to do but things seem to be getting out of hand everywhere.

Please help me keep this site a pleasant place to discuss the many facets of the life and death of Anna Nicole. Thank you….QV

83 Responses

  1. Windi Says:

    Now why would Lin Wood file these for Rose and Ken unless………

  2. Carole Says:

    ROTFLMAO….makes ya wonder!

  3. God Rules Says:

    because there were NO PAID BLOGGERS. ithink QV can also attest to that.

  4. Jojo Says:

    If they were compensated in anyway, including promise of future compensation and/or employement by an associated (as in being paid for moderating and site) that is is quid por quo and someone is going to be in trouble.

  5. QV Says:

    God Rules Says:
    February 5th, 2008 at 5:07 pm e

    because there were NO PAID BLOGGERS. ithink QV can also attest to that.
    ******************************

    There were no paid bloggers that I know of on my site but after Rose got her own site, she sent out letters to researchers saying thank you from the “Liaison for Howard K. Sterns legal team”. Also Rose said that I ruined her “attorney work product” status by outing her, but she still kept doing what she was doing.

  6. Matilda Says:

    Whatcha scared of Howard?

  7. Anony Mouse Says:

    IMO Wood was used to controlling bloggers during the Ramsey days…things are different now….the web is more active….people are not so easily intimidated and are enjoying expressing their opinions on this case. So Wood’s office hanging out on your site QV is not going to scare away any bloggers/posters. They must be eagerly awaiting the next installment (so are we LOL)

  8. Jojo Says:

    Art is paid and he’s a blogger
    Nazarian was paid and he was blogging.
    ….and so on…and so on!

    Hello Mr. Wood - How much are you charging the baby to read this site?

  9. Uh oh Says:

    I have always respected QV and this site. I don’t name call. I try to not be antagonizing in any post I make. I do read this blog in case there is something that may show Howard or anyone in a different light, other than speculation and personal opinions. I rely on the actual court documents to make my personal decisions. I believe Howard is completely innocent of murder or even manslaughter. Did he make some mistakes? Yes, we all do. Hell, Ford Shelly himself said, before the fight over the house, “Howard and Anna would never hurt that boy.”

    I can assure you that no one involved in RoseSpeaks is a paid blogger. If the hard drives have to be turned over, so be it. That will be proof there is nothing more than people who got together for the same reason, to search the truth through researching court documents, legal papers, etc. It’s not about not turning the hard drives over. It’s about freedom of speech and thought process. Everything posted on RoseSpeaks, other than a few posters who don’t know how to control themselves, is backed up by court documents or inconsistencies in interviews, things like that.

    It all started with QV’s site and the belief by everyone involved that the media went crazy, pointing finger without cause, etc… It saddens me that the friendships that were made here have seperated, no matter the reason. We are on different ends of the spectrum now and each of us stand strong by our beliefs. Doesn’t mean that any of us are bad people. Doesn’t mean that we have to call each other names. There are some that are a little off their rocker and will stop at nothing to try and hurt someone with words but how can a person sitting on the other side of a computer screen, whom you have no personal connection to and truthfully don’t even really know if what they say about themselves is true, hurt you? They can’t me. I don’t let what they say rule me. It doesn’t affect me in my daily life so it’s no biggie. I wish more people could let go of the hate or bashing thrown their way. Maybe that way things would have been different in the blogging world. Who knows? Then again, you will always have those that stop at nothing.

  10. Uh oh Says:

    Maybe I should have read the motion first. This is about “implied” personal jurisdicition and nothing else. By serving this subpeona, if accepted and acted on, it implies that HKS accepts personal jurisdiciton in Texas.

  11. Carole Says:

    I betg to differ, Uh oh. It STARTED when a 20 year old boy died in his mother’s hospital room from an overdose of methadone. I do believe Howard is responsible for the methadone getting from point A to point B. I became more convinced by the exposure of the Death pictures especially after seeing that disgusting clown video….and he thinks he can make us swallow his spin? Howard destroyed himself ALL BY himself, and the wheels of justice are turning tighter and tighter. I thank goodness for sites like this that are not afraid of some overbearing attorney with misplaced delusions of grandeur. I can’t wait for the HKS vs O’Quinn, but you can bet Lin will want to settle….he doesn’t dare take it to court. I can’t wait for VA vs HKS, but you can bet Lin will offer to settle….he doesn’t dare take that to court. Howard can’t afford for 12 logical, intelligent people to hear the truth, in my opinion. To any DOJ or DEA people who may be reading this site for fun…I say, offer immunity to Dr. E and she will sing like a canary.

  12. popinin Says:

    have notof one person, saying Howard ordered pills of any kind in his name. i have seen The articles on Anna’s personnal computer, where she ordered her drugs, and p[ut the names of anyone she wanted, on them.She had done that, before she met Howard., and she would mix her own cocktails. she also would take more than the dosage, specified. Who carried her “BAG” when she was with Ben Thompson? Who mixed her cocktails then?? ANYONE who knew Anna, and was around her, knew she did every thing in excess. Vergie also knows that.

  13. Anony Mouse Says:

    Howard was on the phone with Kapoor and Dr. E….google it.

  14. Matilda Says:

    You have not seen “articles” on Anna’s computer where she ordered drugs online. Please try to stick to the truth.

  15. popinin Says:

    SO ??? link to jhis ordering meds

  16. QV Says:

    Uh Oh, your post is very timely. I was just writing about the same thing and I also posted it above.

    I would like to address everyone that comments on this site. In the past week, I have had to ban two people for comments containing character assassination, and this morning there was a threat against another poster. This site welcomes opinions from both sides, but from now on, I am going to have to delete comments and ban people that will not follow the rules.

    When in discussion with an opposing view point, please just discuss your opinion and do not call each other names or swear at them or accuse them of anything. I have been guilty of the same on other sites as well but I am not going to argue with people anymore. I’ll just state my case and move on. I know it is hard to do but things seem to be getting out of hand everywhere.

    Please help me keep this site a pleasant place to discuss the many facets of the life and death of Anna Nicole. Thank you….QV

  17. Carole Says:

    Anna was one lazy gal. She loved it when people waited on her and carried her bags and pups. Howard tried to convince Kapoor to prescribe the drugs Dr. E had requested. Kapoor knew better. Howard testified that he controlled the drugs to keep Anna from overmedicatied. He controlled her to death…proof was found blue and lifeless on a bed at the HRH. Howard who rarely came unglued from Anna chose that day to go check out the boat Anna bought, but that has somehow ended up in the name of Crackers, a corporation where there are only 2 shareholders, one of them being Howards Bahama attorney, Wayne Munroe….wonder how that little name change came about. Howard, who helped Dr. E. stick a very sick Anna in a tub of ice water rather than take her to a hospital where she could be helped. Howard, who tells conflicting stories of his movements on that day. Howard, who lied about the drugs in his name, under oath, no less. Howard, who, if you can believe him, and I don’t, admits he had a relationship with his client that was unethical, and therefore was kept secret. Howard, who lied about being the father of Dannielynn after Ben Thompson refused to….and there is another story that has not become publicly known as yet, which I think Howard uses to keep certain other interested parties from telling the truth. Of course, this is my opinion, but it’s a very strong opinion.

  18. Mish Says:

    Uh Oh

    Very nice :)

  19. Lucy Says:

    Carole, to sort of continue on with you thoughts, why would anyone necessarily believe that only Anna had access to her computer? So WHAT if the meds were ordered on her personal computer? Anyone who entered that house, or certainly anyone who lived there, could have used that computer at any given time. I’ll bet almost every person here has, at some time, used someone elses computer or let someone use theirs.

    If we could read her emails we would most certainly know if she did the ordering. I can’t see Anna successfully spelling names of medications, can anyone else?

  20. QV Says:

    I hope I did not scare anyone with my last post. Let me give you some examples of unacceptable comments.

    1. So and so is a murderer.
    2. So and so is trailer trash and a pig.
    3. Hey you stupid @ss, you don’t know sh!t.

    Your opinions are fine but don’t go overboard with vile accusations and name calling. That is all I am trying to say and most of you know where to draw the line.

    Reading this thread, it all looks ok to me. For example, JoJo’s comment. Hard hitting, but not out of line. I would ask the same question..

    Thanks and I am off to the dentist.

  21. Karma Says:

    Okay, now I’m confused. Didn’t Stern attend a Deposition on this case in Texas? Isn’t a Deposition considered “discovery”. If so, then how can he argue that discovery hasn’t started yet when discovery already already happened? And, just for sake of argument, let’s say that the Deposition was only on Jurisdictional matters. Aren’t these subpoena’s also addressing the jurisdictional matter? So what is Stern/Wood afraid of?

  22. Anony Mouse Says:

    here’s my take - that Stern objection isn’t going anywhere because one of the purposes of deposing Rose is to show that HKS had dealings with Texas (Rose) for the purpose of showing jurisdiction. Wilma was allowed to be deposed for “jurisdictional purposes only” - ok Wood didn’t bother to depose her for one hour in the judge’s chambers but nonetheless a deposition for jurisdictional purposes was allowed and Wilma was a “third party” as is Rose. So the same thing will be allowed here. Mc Cabe is no dummy, much as some would like to think. This is just my analysis of the whole thing - I may not be right.

  23. Carole Says:

    Hey Karma, HKS was deposed RE HKS vs O’Q….these are concerning VA vs HKS…he was deposed in Atlanta January 4 regarding jurisdiction and failed to bring requested documents, claiming the bankruptcy court had them. I’m sure they would have given him copies if he had requested them. I will go one better and say he has copies anyway, IMO

  24. Carole Says:

    Sounds pretty good to me Mouse

  25. Karma Says:

    Thanks Anony Mouse (cute nic btw) and Carole. So many lawsuits involving the same people, I get confused sometimes.

    Anyway, the way Ms. Mouse explained it, that sounds pretty clear that the objection will be noted but not allowed. McCabe is an excellent attorney, so I will look forward to reading his response to the objection.

    And if we behave and play nice, maybe QV will link us to those documents when available. I also want to thank her for being on top of these new documents.

  26. Anonymous Says:

    Carole Says:
    February 5th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
    Anna was one lazy gal. She loved it when people waited on her and carried her bags and pups. Howard tried to convince Kapoor to prescribe the drugs Dr. E had requested. Kapoor knew better. Howard testified that he controlled the drugs to keep Anna from overmedicatied. He controlled her to death…proof was found blue and lifeless on a bed at the HRH. Howard who rarely came unglued from Anna chose that day to go check out the boat Anna bought, but that has somehow ended up in the name of Crackers, a corporation where there are only 2 shareholders, one of them being Howards Bahama attorney, Wayne Munroe….wonder how that little name change came about. Howard, who helped Dr. E. stick a very sick Anna in a tub of ice water rather than take her to a hospital where she could be helped. Howard, who tells conflicting stories of his movements on that day. Howard, who lied about the drugs in his name, under oath, no less. Howard, who, if you can believe him, and I don’t, admits he had a relationship with his client that was unethical, and therefore was kept secret. Howard, who lied about being the father of Dannielynn after Ben Thompson refused to….and there is another story that has not become publicly known as yet, which I think Howard uses to keep certain other interested parties from telling the truth. Of course, this is my opinion, but it’s a very strong opinion.

    Carole can’t you tell us what the other thing that Howard is controlling people with. Is it what is on the video or something else?

  27. QV is the best Says:

    QV we really thank you for such a pleasent site you have here.

  28. Anony Mouse Says:

    Guessing Carole:

    little things that swim in dishes?

  29. Mo Says:

    Thanks, QV. I appreciate what you do in making this a pleasant site to visit.

  30. QV is the best Says:

    someone went and put Virgie Arthurs address on Art Harris site. I think this is disgraceful. I hope Virgie finds this out.

  31. AlamoGirl Says:

    # QV is the best Says:
    February 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    someone went and put Virgie Arthurs address on Art Harris site. I think this is disgraceful. I hope Virgie finds this out.
    ********************************

    Maybe McCabe needs a heads up on that, email it to him……..

  32. Anony Mouse Says:

    You think that’s bad you should see what they are saying on TMZ right now - someone stole Whack’s name and is trashing Virgie big time

  33. AlamoGirl Says:

    yeah, I saw that so let’s ALL post as Whack…haha

  34. QV is the best Says:

    Someone just put Virgies address on Art Harris’s site/
    Why are people so rotton?

  35. Carole Says:

    brilliant deduction Anony Mouse!

  36. Lucy Says:

    AG, let us know if he leaves the address up. If he has a speck of decency he will delete it, and the poster.

  37. pza Says:

    That’s one of many reasons I don’t post at tmz.

  38. Mary Says:

    4:13pm CST Virgies address still up on Harris’s sorry excuse for a website

  39. Carole Says:

    I do hope someone has given a head’s up to McCabe.

  40. AlamoGirl Says:

    Art took down the address but left the link to the white pages up.

  41. Matilda Says:

    As usual, Art refused to post my comment. This is exactly what I said:

    “Perhaps I’m not looking hard enough, but I fail to see any mention of Virgie asking for money in those emails.”

    He’ll post all kinds of nasties directed at Virgie, but a reasonable comment pointing out a fact doesn’t stand a chance. I just can’t understand why the man threw his whole reputation away for the likes of Howard.

  42. AlamoGirl Says:

    Virgie did not write those emails, the guy from Splash wrote them.

  43. AlamoGirl Says:

    If the emails were conventional why are they on Art’s site.

  44. AlamoGirl Says:

    oops, spelling error.Confinential

  45. AlamoGirl Says:

    oops, I’m not going to correct it again.LOL

  46. Anony Mouse Says:

    re Art Harris

    it’s called spin

    they assume nobody will read the actual docs

    Art is just a cheerleader for the sternies - whips them up rah rah rah go team - then they go to TMZ and trash Virgie.

  47. God Rules Says:

    http://gossip.commongate.com/tag/vergie+arthur I thought this article was quite telling, what Vergie was thinking about when she went on the stand in Flordia. She was upset because howard was the ONLYONE making money, she says

  48. God Rules Says:

    i also saw her on the stand saying that

  49. Lucy Says:

    Crazy Gossip dot com? Now I’d sure call that a reliable source. You just know that with that name they’d be reputable. *insert rolling eyes here*

  50. God Rules Says:

    I saw her and heard her with my own eyes and ears, and so did thousands of others. dear. it is documented in stone

  51. Matilda Says:

    God Rules Says:
    February 6th, 2008 at 2:51 am

    I saw her and heard her with my own eyes and ears, and so did thousands of others. dear. it is documented in stone

    ““““`
    Yes, we all heard her saying that Howard was making money off Anna’s death. It was true. What’s your beef?

  52. Lucy Says:

    Maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t see what the problem is. Wasn’t she just stating a fact? How can anyone get that she’s jealous or wants her cut, or whatever?

  53. pza Says:

    Lucy Says:
    February 6th, 2008 at 4:34 am

    Maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t see what the problem is. Wasn’t she just stating a fact? How can anyone get that she’s jealous or wants her cut, or whatever?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It seems that facts can be just a tad inconvenient at times.

  54. God Rules Says:

    Vergie, does not know that Howard was making money, Vergie lies in every breath she takes, I have not seen ONE interview that she has not lied.

  55. Ponder This Says:

    I have been lurking GR. You happen to know and have solid proof of every single things that VA said and it is a lie. Why are Howard’s very obvious lies not at issue with you?
    Just because you see it on Fox or should I say Faux News or the internet you think its true.

    Do you have actual check stub to see exactly what Vergie made with any news show? Did Howard not also lie in court?

    And why should she not get paid for something. Howard was on the phone booking rooms for the ET crew shortly after he “heard” of Anna Nicoles death. so he could plan his payday.

    Everyone is ok to get a payday but Vergie. See how hypocrital that is.

    Ding! I just saw two recent pics of Larry out on the town smashed out of his head!
    Today on the television that you obviously believe when its against Vergie, they said that Howard did not even bother to follow the strecher out to the ambulance. He had phone calls to make but paramedics were still working on Anna. He must not have needed to know that part.

    Vergie does not want to raise Dannielynn. She just wants to make sure she is safe. And what do you know about what goes on behind closed doors at the Birkhead house right next door to Doctor Kris?

    Truth is that none of us know anything. The actual players know. But we don’t. So why don’t you relax and wait for the real facts come out in court before you pass judgement.
    God does rule and he would not be too happy with someone taking his job.

  56. Ponder Howard Lied about the drugs Says:

    Howard lied aboput the drugs that killed Anna.

  57. AlamoGirl Says:

    All this abuse on Virgie to take the heat off LARRY SELLING DANNIELYNN TO ET IN THE BAHAMAS!!

    LARRY DID NOT GO TO DANNIELYNN’S BROTHER’S INQUEST……no money there.

    EVEN TMZ LEFT THAT STORY ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. Mary Says:

    How true AlamoGirl. I do wonder too if there is something else besides Larry this Virgie story is covering up. The timing is too coincidental. Makes you wonder what else is going on.

  59. Larry Sue Says:

    Alamogirl, I agree how convient for larry to be in the Bahamas when he is gettign paid from ET but where was he last week when his daughters brother’s inquest was held? By the way ummmm Larry a fever of 106 would have killed you? I am glad someone got you to a hospital they did not do it for the baby’s mother?

  60. Larry Sue Says:

    Anony Mouse Says:
    February 6th, 2008 at 1:16 am
    re Art Harris

    it’s called spin

    they assume nobody will read the actual docs

    Art is just a cheerleader for the sternies - whips them up rah rah rah go team - then they go to TMZ and trash Virgie.

    Correction: Art Harris is the Head cheerleader for Stern. I think he would be insulted to be known as only a cheerleader.

  61. Larry Sue Says:

    Hi Mr. Wood How are you today? I think you are losing more hair over this? Take a vacation or get better clients. Take good care of yourself.

  62. Mary Says:

    “Larry Birkhead set to sue over Anna Nicole Smith book
    Wednesday, February 6th 2008, 4:00 AM

    DeGuire/WireImage
    Anna Nicole Smith
    Marking the first anniversary of Anna Nicole Smith’s death on Friday is a new book by two confidants - and her baby-daddy, Larry Birkhead, tells me he plans to sue.
    “Anna Nicole: Portrait of an Icon” is a controversial look at her topsy-turvy life. Written by her dress designer Pol’ Atteu and his partner Patrik Simpson, the book tells some startling stories from their eight years of friendship.
    Most damaging for Birkhead could be the couple’s account of meeting him at Camp Kindle, a retreat for HIV-positive youth.
    “After our first meeting with Larry Birkhead he gave us the impression he was ‘family,’ displaying some unusual behavior by hitting on Pol’ and myself,” alleges Simpson. The book also claims that Birkhead’s “secret rendezvous there included spending quite a bit of time with a particular young and handsome male counselor.”
    Birkhead told me yesterday: “They are absolutely crazy, their stories are false, and they will be sued.”
    Separately, Atteu recalls being summoned to the Bahamas with an outfit for Anna Nicole to bury her son, Daniel - only to be told she needed a wedding dress to marry Howard K. Stern instead.
    “We were completely dumbfounded and confused. There was no mention of Daniel’s funeral,” Atteu writes. He made the wedding dress with fabric he’d brought for baby Dannielynn’s nursery curtains.
    In her final weeks, the book says, Smith went from denial that her son had died to a conviction that he was calling to her and that she had to go to him.
    Atteu and Simpson are releasing the title through Corona Books, an imprint owned by former “Hollywood Super Madam,” Jody (Babydol) Gibson. Although the book is not yet in stores, it is available for download.

    From TMZ. Plot keeps getting thicker

  63. Mary Says:

    In her final weeks, the book says, Smith went from denial that her son had died to a conviction that he was calling to her and that she had to go to him.

    And no one helped her???????

  64. Larry Sue Says:

    No Mary nobody helped they never even tried they let her die in a bed without medical attention.

  65. Uh oh Says:

    Carole

    The site was started by QV for her own reasons. Everyone came here originally, or most people anyway, because of the crazy state the media was in. We wanted a place to work together and find the truth. The media was in a frenzy and throwing accusations left and right.

    You wear you heart on your sleave. Nothing wrong with that but I can see that it would be pointless to debate or even try to “show” my point with you because of it. Nothing wrong with that either but I’m not going to get into a “it started with the death of a 20yr. old boy” type discussion. I believe Daniels death was completely accidental. IMO that is what the evidence shows. Your opinion is different. That’s all. I didn’t post what I did to get hit with the “Howard is a bad guy” thing. I just don’t believe it to be true. Made mistakes. Yes. Didn’t know how to handle Anna’s drug use other than enable her. Yes. Bad guy for it. No. If you’ve never watched the show Intervention then I encourage you to. It shows families enabling drug users everyday until they get to that point, whatever that point may be. Drug addiction is a disease just as bipolar, etc.. You probably are aware of that already. It’s not a moral disease. It’s an emotional one and it sucks everyone around that person into it and eats them up.

    I hold no ill will against you because you believe differently than I do. It’s you right and I absolutely will not “fight” because of it. I would hope you would afford me the same courtesy.

  66. Uh oh Says:

    Annoy Mouse

    That would be true but UNTIL the jurisdicitonal side is resolved then what McCabe is asking for can’t be turned over. There has been no connection with HKS and RoseSpeaks. Bonnie knows it exists and through “osmosis” I’m pretty sure Howard knows it exists but, Rose has never spoken to, been given orders by, etc.. HKS. She has never been given any orders by Bonnie either, as she says and I believe her. Minimal contact with someone doesn’t automatically imply guilt. I’ve had minimal contact with Bonnie through myspace. QV has had minimal contact with Bonnie and so have several others. I have never spoken with Bonnie about anything involving the case other than to say “tell HKS to keep his chin up.” I have never had any kind of orders related to RoseSpeaks and that is the honest to God’s truth.

    Wilma was deposed concering the Florida case. She is a direct connection with Don Clark and Rita Cosby. She worked for Don Clark and Rita named him as the source for the alleged sex tape.

    I don’t know if that makes sense. I hope it does.

    have a nice day

  67. Uh oh Says:

    Larry has said he is going to testify in March when the inquest resumes. How about we wait until then to pass judgement on Larry not testifying? If it turns out he doesn’t then I will have something to hold against him but right now, I see him as a young man who absolutely adores his daughter. I don’t think anyone can say she isn’t being well taken care of and loved. Larry is acting like any other young, single man. Becoming a parent does mean your life changes but it doesn’t mean you have to become a hermit. I’m a parent. I go out every once in a while and drink a little to much. It happens. I don’t see how someone can look at a picture and tell the state of a persons being, unless that person is a Britney Spears (poor girl), Paris Hilton type person. I don’t think a picture of someone dancing proves intoxication. Different opinion but with the utmost respect.

  68. QV Says:

    Hi Uh Oh.
    I am going to have to beg to differ with this statement: “Rose has never spoken to, been given orders by, etc.. HKS. She has never been given any orders by Bonnie either, as she says and I believe her.”

    When my final article comes out, there will be excerpts from emails that Bonnie did indeed “give orders”‘ as you say.

    Ill also supply some screen shots to prove my point.

    Also, to all, I just posted a new topic about the new book that you are all talking about..

    It appears that this book can be purchased not only in hard cover but over the internet by download so you can have it immediately.

  69. QV Says:

    Oops, Forgot one thing.
    Good Morning Lin Wood’s office. Have a great day!

  70. Carole Says:

    Hello Woods and Co, it’s a rainy day in Hotlanta!

    Uh oh, I have no beef with you. You have an opinion that I don’t agree with…it happens. I don’t understand your POV just as I’m sure you don’t understand mine. Emotional? for sure I am. I will always believe Howard morally and legally responsible for Daniel’s death and for Anna’s. My decision is not based on anything said by John O’Quinn (angel in disguise) or Virgie Arthur (seeker of justice). I formed my own opinions about the calibur of man Howard is based solely on his actions and proven lies.

    If he were innocent in the death of Daniel, he would be on a white house leading the charge to justice with Virgie. As it is, it’s my opinion he’s using his horse to try and malign Virgie, thus drawing attention AWAY from his own involvement.

    Yes, he was an enabler, yes he allowed Dr. E to write scripts in his name, because no pharmacy would fill anymore in Anna’s name or in any of her alias’s…..I’m sure records will show she was scripted to the point no pharmacy wanted to be responsible for her health anymore. Howard could have gotten her to a hospital for treatment…..(look at Britney’s intervention). But then he would have lost his control of her. She would have gotten clean, and told him once more to Get Out of Her Life.

    It is my strong belief Howard is responsible for the deaths of two individuals, and that he is lying about being broke.

  71. Annony Mouse Says:

    Wilma was deposed concering the Florida case.
    ******************

    ABSOLUTELY incorrect. WVD has NOT been deposed.

  72. Mish Says:

    Larry Sue
    Actully you can have a fever of a 106′ and live. Last June my mother was rushed to the hospital with 107′ her body was almost in shock. She just turned 76 in January and was married in November so see she didnt die.

  73. Mish Says:

    What timing for this new book, another person wanting to make money off of Anna. In the guise of donating a portion of proceeds to a foundation.

    Besides what does it really matter if Larry is Gay, really?

  74. Carole Says:

    Mish, your mom is a very fortunate woman. Any doctor will tell you, in adults any fever over 104 should be taken very, very seriously. 105 degree fevers are known to cause convulsions.

  75. Lucy Says:

    A temperature that high can, and often does, cause brain damage. IF Larry had a temp that high, he’s lucky to be feeling so well this soon.

  76. Larry Sue Says:

    Well God Bless your Mother Mish. She must have been real sick? I love that she is 76 and got married good for her!

  77. Things that make u go hmmm... Says:

    Uh oh Says:
    February 6th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    So tell us if what you say is true about Daniel’s death being an accident, why didn’t Howard learn his lesson about enabling?? Why wouldn’t he have been more concerned for Anna and the prescription drugs she was taking?
    You see, for most people that would have been a big ol’ wake up call.
    Why wasn’t it for Howard?

  78. AlamoGirl Says:

    16134. QV got mad I agree - who is/are Rose Speaks and why does HKS support them? ANS.com is back up and running - same management agency and same selling agency - someone should look up who has started up ANS Interactive LLC again. Had you noticed this?

    Posted at 5:18PM on Feb 6th 2008 by Rosemary
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    Found this on TMZ and think it needs to be posted so we can organize to find out the information on it.

  79. Carole Says:

    ANS Interactive LLC

    Is/Was this Anna’s blog site? If there are sales going on there, won’t they have to become part of the estate? I wonder if the Corp has changed hands unobtrusively?

  80. Fever of 106 Says:

    What are the treatments for the condition?
    If possible, treatment is usually directed first at whatever is causing the fever. Most bacterial infections, for instance, are treated with antibiotics. Most common viral infections, on the other hand, cannot be treated except to relieve symptoms. If the cause is known, it makes sense to reduce the person’s discomfort by bringing a moderate fever down. Acetaminophen (i.e., Tylenol) or ibuprofen (i.e., Advil, Motrin) are useful for this purpose. Because a fever may return after the first dose of medication, doses should be taken as directed throughout the day. Extra fluids should be taken to help avoid dehydration. For a very high fever, bringing the temperature down is an immediate priority regardless of the cause, in order to prevent brain damage. Sponging or bathing in lukewarm water can reduce body temperature by cooling the skin. Ice water or alcohol sponge baths are no more effective than lukewarm water, so these should never be used. Extra clothing and blankets should not be used because they will only cause the fever to rise. Fevers greater than 106 degrees F are very serious and must be treated in the hospital.

  81. dying for the truth Says:

    QV, just wanted to thank you so much for such a wonderfully informative site. I’m sorry for all the drama that you’ve had to endure. I am very impressed with the research and work that you and yours have done. Looks like I’ve got 3 new books to buy. Of the last 3, Rita’s was my favorite. The other two, wrote about her from a jaded/judging angle. I am still dying to read Moe’s book, I wonder what ever happened to that, it had a release date with Target for last year…….then it NEVER came out…………hmmmmmmmmmm

  82. qvs pal Says:

    Found this on TMZ and think it needs to be posted so we can organize to find out the information on it.

    wow , you are going to organize, Vergie bloggers?? i hope Lin Wood is “watching”

  83. nutstoya Says:

    Vergie tried to get Anna clean ,”she says”, Larry tried to stop Anna , when she was pregnant, He was booted. NO ONE but Anna could get Anna clean,she had od a number of times, before,She and Daniel would be alive today, had she opted to stay in CA. and face Larry, and the law suits. Anna with the help of Ben Thompson and Ford Shelley, put this whole event in motion, Howard was not around. Ben was helping her defraud Larry. and Larry was supposed to be his friend. lets put the blame where it belongs.

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